Lowering carbon can be done by a massive shift to renewables- it's not as if the extractives aren't the only valid energy sources- and there are many methods from the traditional practices of indigenous people that can also be use.

It's a limited way of thinking to insist that the only way forward is through top-down, technocratic "fixes" that impose hardships on the many while asking no sacrifices of the few.

This is not an issue that can be left solely to elitists, professionals and "insiders".

As to the temperature, it is LITERALLY rising. That's the marker for this whole crisis.

Why not admit that ordinary people, people who are not part of the corporate/establishment scientific world, who are not white and privileged, who are not indifferent to human suffering and human need, should have no say on this issue?

We are in this situation because the dismissive, compromising "grown-ups" have failed, which means- and I say this as a 62 year-old grandfather, so you're not entitled to call me a non "grown-up"- that the voices of the rest of the human races, the non-wealthy, non-priviliged, non-comfortable majority need to be heard.

If the "grown-ups" cared, if they could have solved this, they would have by now. Therefore the human temperature needs to be raised so that the necessary changes- many of whom involve a global "green" transition AND a real transfer of wealth and political power- are actually made.

And even if everything you said about Greta was true,, you are still being unbelievably vicious and condescending in comparing her, at any leval at all, to a grown man who went into exile to do horrible things to women. In no way are Greta and Tate even remotely comparable, and you should feel ashamed of yourself for even thinking that about her.